Another reason to believe that our newest EW starts at 8185 instead of 8106 is the new smaller time frame shiff pitchfork I just drew that's already proving itself to be very useful with a perfect hit on the lower band bottom and top before taking of. This means >50% of current bots, traders, wales are agreeing to have this new count start at 8106 with pivots of importance at 9944 and 9120.
To get an EW count out of this I had to go with either a very big 1 or a very deep 4 and I chose the first as you can see on the chart. The reason for that is that I would really like to finish the 5 at the top of the big long term pitchfork that has been proven very worthy over time. If I went with 1234 already in, we would have far too much extension into the 5 to get all the way up there.
Keep in mind that the bullish count is never 100% guaranteed! This only proofs it has some capital behind it to say the least.