PAH3 - Opportunity to Buy a cheap Porsche? Stock - not a car :(GETTEX:PAH3
Quick Description of this stock:
PAH3 is the ticker symbol for Porsche Automobil Holding SE (Porsche SE). Holding company that primarily owns a significant portion of Volkswagen Group's shares and exercises 53,3% of voting rights in Volkswagen.
When you invest in PAH3 you are more exposed to Volkswagen's than Porsche AG's direct operations. These shares provide exposure to the broader automotive industry via VW's portfolio including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini and others.
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Same as Porsche AG (P911) stock, we can see significant drop in price.. The highest point that price reached in 2024 was around 52.28 per share, with today's drop in price this marks 35.79% drop in 2024!
As we can see on the chart ( I am using Monthly chart as this is a longterm investment and analysis) price is currently in the historic Demand Zone from where it bounced back up. Depending on how this monthly candle closes we may witness history repeat itself or we are going lower to the All-in Zone even better zone to invest.
I called it All-in Zone as I think this stock is a great investment opportunity for those who wish to enter this market. You now have a chance to buy at price that we havent seen in 4 years! If we reach to the All-in Zone you will have a chance to buy this stock at a price that we havent seen since 2010 or even 2003 if we reach bottom of the zone.
Nobody really knows what will happen with VW group and I am not here to make predictions or wild guesses. I just look at the chart and price history and look at where we might go next, I love technical analysis.
So I started buying these stocks same as P911 each month... There is no guarantee for anything and this may be a really good opportunity. As there is big profit potential ! And if we go lower? You will just get a better average buy-in price.
For those who are willing to take the risk and have some connection to the car industry - like me.. This may be a good investment in the long run.
Also do not forget that owning this stocks Porsche will be paying you dividends once a year!
Patience is the key! Play it smart!
Porsche
P911 - Opportunity to Buy a cheap Porsche? Stock - not a car :( GETTEX:P911
We all know issues that VW group is currently facing so no point of writing about that. Lets look at some investment opportunities!
Since the start of 2024 Porsche saw a nice move to the upside where price found resistance and since then.... since exactly 224 Days, price dropped -42.27%!!! Only in November price dropped -17,33%.
While this may look bad, and in most cases is bad, there is money on the table for those who still havent invested in this stock.
We do not know 100% what will happen with VW group and Porsche, too big to fail? I guess.
There is no historic price action so we also dont know for how long this will keep on dropping and where is the actual bottom before reversing to the upside?
Me personally, I started buying some of Porsche stocks each month. We know for certain it cant go bellow 0 (Absolute bottom). There is still room to drop , but there is also profit potential on the upside towards historic prices.
For those who are willing to take the risk and have some connection to the car industry - Porsche in general, like me.. This may be a good investment in the long run.
Also do not forget that owning this stocks Porsche will be paying you dividends once a year!
Patience is the key! Play it smart!
PORSCHE - P911 - German Auto IndustryWith current issue on tariffs between EU & China - it will be a daring move to buy and European Car stock. It is hard to predict how those discussions will end given the current shift in the EU political landscape.
DAX broke records but P911 was on a downtrend forever. Profitable, dividend play. If to chose any EU auto stock RACE (Ferrari) STLA and Mercedes would be top of the list along with P911.
Once the trend line breaks, ideal entry would be on the retest. The last extended wick might have marked a local bottom
Porsche - Is worth it ? Porsche 26 of April 2024 reported its revenues and earnings. Will help us these reports consider whether XETR:P911 is worth at this price ?
Let´s have a brief look.
1. earnings positively surprised us, 3.94% exceeded its expectations. ✔️
2. revenue´s stayed behind expectations by 3.96% ❌
3. hikes dividend amount to 2.31 per share ✔️
4. launching four new models in 2024 (Macan, Panamera, Taycan, 911) ✔️
5. expects an operating return on sales of between 15 - 17%, down from 18% noticed in previous two years ❌
6. future - they focus on sustainable success of company ✔️
7. expectations to 2025 - strong recovery in China and full range of models which will kick their financials off ✔️
Revenue by countries:
- North America 29.53%
- China 23.56%
- Europe 21.66%
- Germany 12.03%
- Rest of the World 14.26%
Balanced distribution throughout the world puts this company on solid footing. China is still behind expectations due to decrease in demand and EV price war. China could be an ace up in its sleeve in the coming years.
Mixed financial reports could mislead us a bit. However Porsche still has a strong vision, sustainable business model and positive fundamental background.
Stock´s sold at 3.34 times by its book value. Obviously there´s a premium priced in we have to reckon with. Premium car segment needs premium price of stocks.
Let´s recap.
Is it worth it at this price ?
In my point of view, stock´s around the IPO price. The range between 82.5 - 84.0 seems to be very pleasant to place buy-orders. Definitely from a long-term point of view.
Consider your best price to entry and make your own call.
Porsche reclaims higher price tags and wants to join its peersLast year in September, we analyzed Porsche's stock following its 2022 initial public offering. At the time, we noted Porsche's shares had great prospects in the long term and viewed a potential pullback in price as a great opportunity to buy this stock at relatively reasonable prices (judging by Porsche’s performance during its short life span on the exchange). When Porsche was still trading above €100, we eyed an ideal entry 10% below its market price. However, we also emphasized the need to leave some more capital aside to execute additional purchases once the opportunity arises. After patiently waiting a few months, we signaled another opportunity in late January 2024 when Porsche was trading near its all-time lows, looking relatively cheap to its peers like BMW and Mercedes-Benz. Fast forward to today, and shares of Porsche are trading up about 30% from that level and above the level we signaled in late September 2023 as well (above the area between €90 and €92). As far as our outlook goes, we remain bullish on Porsche in the long term and believe it has a chance to reclaim all-time highs and continue higher (though it might be a rocky ride).
Illustration 1.01
Illustration 1.01 shows the daily chart of Porsche stock and simple support/resistance levels derived from peaks and troughs.
Technical analysis gauge
Daily time frame = Bullish
Weekly time frame = Bullish
*The gauge does not necessarily indicate where the market will head. Instead, it reflects the constellation of RSI, MACD, Stochastic, DM+-, ADX, and moving averages.
Please feel free to express your ideas and thoughts in the comment section.
DISCLAIMER: This analysis is not intended to encourage any buying or selling of any particular securities. Furthermore, it should not be a basis for taking any trade action by an individual investor or any other entity. Therefore, your own due diligence is highly advised before entering a trade.
Worldwide misunderstanding for Polestar 😄Trading at 87.5% below our estimate of its fair value
Revenue is forecast to grow 35.64% per year
Trading at good value compared to peers and industry
Risk:
Negative shareholders equity
Has less than 1 year of cash runway
Currently unprofitable and not forecast to become profitable over the next 3 years
Volatile share price over the past 3 months
Polestar has tried everything. Collaboration with Renault to "sublet" production plants (future plant in South Korea). Breakaway from Volvo. Lower prices for Polestar 3 and 4 cars. But nothing worked. The stock continues to sleep, brain-dead.
The shorts keep piling up, day after day after day...
As a huge investor in this stock, I myself look away. I start buying a China ETF, Porsche, European stocks like Nestlé or Swatch or Zalando or Kering... no one in my entourage can hear about Polestar anymore haha
Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche P911 (still long)Full year 2023 earnings: Revenues in line with analyst expectations
Full year 2023 results:
Revenue: €40.5b (up 7.7% from FY 2022).
Net income: €5.16b (up 4.2% from FY 2022).
Profit margin: 13% (in line with FY 2022).
Revenue was in line with analyst estimates.
Revenue is forecast to grow 5.4% p.a. on average during the next 3 years, compared to a 1.9% growth forecast for the Auto industry in Germany.
Changes in the EU's Green Deal could spur growth for VolkswagenVolkswagen’s shares have been on a downward trajectory for about three years now, dropping by more than 50%. However, after finding a bottom (presumably) in October 2023, the company’s stock has been ticking higher and forming an upward-sloping channel. While it is yet to be seen whether these shares have really bottomed out, certain developments might boost the company’s outlook going forward. Due to mounting protests from farmers and others, discussions about the European Union’s Green Deal and its feasibility have emerged recently. It is becoming increasingly apparent that ambitious plans might not be achievable within the initial deadline set in the deal. Furthermore, the question of the cost of achieving these goals has become a major subject of talks among members of the European Parliament. So far, European lawmakers have scrapped some of the initial rules, mainly affecting the agricultural sector. Nevertheless, it is possible that phasing out of combustion engine cars and reducing emissions will undergo a similar reassessment that could positively affect European carmakers, including Volkswagen, which is somewhat behind in electrifying its fleet compared to its competitors.
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Illustration 1.01 shows the daily chart of Volkswagen stock. Currently, the price is trading near the lower bound of the upward-sloping channel that acts as a support. If this support holds, it will be positive for the stock in the short term.
Technical analysis gauge
Daily time frame = Slightly bearish
Weekly time frame = Neutral
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Porsche Automobil Holding (PAH3): On the Fast TrackPorsche (PAH3): XETR:PAH3
Our analysis of Porsche Automobil Holding focuses on the stock's price movement since the lows during the COVID-19 crisis at 28.48 EUR. Since then, Wave (1) in blue has expanded to 102 EUR, currently serving as a local high. Subsequently, a remarkably unusual and complex Wave (2) has been observed, which appears atypical at first glance. Upon closer examination, this phase is identified as a flat correction, which falls just above the 78% level, slightly insufficient for a regular flat. In Elliott Wave analysis, as well as in other analyses, it is sometimes necessary to stretch certain rules to reach a conclusion. Whether this is invalid or not is difficult to say at this point.
Currently, the stock suggests that Wave C in red has not yet been fully completed, as the extension of Wave (iii), as expected, took a corrective trend reversal at 41.48 EUR. If this is the case, we are currently witnessing the formation of Wave (iv), with the stock possibly falling one last time with Wave (v) before finally bidding farewell to the overarching Wave (2). The exact timing for this remains open and uncertain. However, as long as Wave 1 does not become invalid, a downward trend is expected for Porsche stock. Potential significant entry points for us could lie in a retest of the Wave (iii) area at 41.90 EUR or even lower. The exact coordinates are yet to be determined, but until then, we anticipate a declining price for Porsche stock.
Porsche Automobil Holding (PAH3): On the Fast TrackPorsche (PAH3): XETR:PAH3
Our analysis of Porsche Automobil Holding focuses on the stock's price movement since the lows during the COVID-19 crisis at 28.48 EUR. Since then, Wave (1) in blue has expanded to 102 EUR, currently serving as a local high. Subsequently, a remarkably unusual and complex Wave (2) has been observed, which appears atypical at first glance. Upon closer examination, this phase is identified as a flat correction, which falls just above the 78% level, slightly insufficient for a regular flat. In Elliott Wave analysis, as well as in other analyses, it is sometimes necessary to stretch certain rules to reach a conclusion. Whether this is invalid or not is difficult to say at this point.
Currently, the stock suggests that Wave C in red has not yet been fully completed, as the extension of Wave (iii), as expected, took a corrective trend reversal at 41.48 EUR. If this is the case, we are currently witnessing the formation of Wave (iv), with the stock possibly falling one last time with Wave (v) before finally bidding farewell to the overarching Wave (2). The exact timing for this remains open and uncertain. However, as long as Wave 1 does not become invalid, a downward trend is expected for Porsche stock. Potential significant entry points for us could lie in a retest of the Wave (iii) area at 41.90 EUR or even lower. The exact coordinates are yet to be determined, but until then, we anticipate a declining price for Porsche stock.
One luxury carmarker is down 20%, a buying opportunity?Although founded in 1948, Porsche became a public company in late September 2022. Initially, the company started to float on the market with an opening price of €84. However, shares rose as high as €120.80 in the coming months. Yet despite these impressive gains since the IPO, shares of the company began to decline in May 2023, losing about 20% of their value through the summer.
In its recent financial report, Porsche AG Group revealed that its operating profit rose 10.7% YoY and sales revenue 14% YoY in the first six months of 2023. Meanwhile, cash and cash equivalents decreased by 52% (by €2.466 billion to €2.244 billion), and the deliveries went up by 14.7% YoY to 167,354 vehicles, with increases in all sales regions. Based on the report, the biggest demand was for models Macan and Cayenne, with 46,842 and 46,399 cars sold, respectively.
Going forward, the company cited supply chain challenges related to auto parts and their quality while noting that risks associated with gas shortages and the Russia-Ukraine conflict decreased. On top of that, the report states: “The explanations on the liquidity risks presented in the risk reporting section of the 2022 combined management report remain unchanged… The overall conclusion that, based on the information and assessments currently available, a development jeopardizing the group’s ability to continue as a going concern is sufficiently improbable in the fiscal year 2023, remains unchanged."
Based on these and other factors, we consider Porsche shares attractive below €100 (with ideal entry around €90 to €92) for the long term (talking about years). However, at the moment, we believe it would be proper to start only with incremental purchases and leave some capital aside for better opportunities.
Technical analysis
Daily time frame = Bearish
Weekly time frame = Bearish
Please feel free to express your ideas and thoughts in the comment section.
DISCLAIMER: This analysis is not intended to encourage any buying or selling of any particular securities. Furthermore, it should not be a basis for taking any trade action by an individual investor. Therefore, your own due diligence is highly advised before entering a trade.
Porsche with one of the highest profit margins per carPorsche has two stocks! The first is P911 and dates back to the IPO. The second is Porsche's historic stock. I bought PAH3. P911 is the stock from the IPO.
Porsche, one of the automotive manufacturers with one of the highest profit margins per car in the world. After RACE, Ferrari, it's Porsche, it seems to me.
This stock has returned to its IPO price...
Undervalued in my opinion.
- Price-To-Earnings ratio (12.9x) is below the German market (16.1x)
- Earnings are forecast to grow 5.77% per year
- Earnings grew by 3.3% over the past year
- Analysts in good agreement that stock price will rise by 33.9%
- No risks detected for P911
- Revenue is meaningful (€41B)
- Market cap is meaningful (€67B)
- The company’s earnings are high quality
- Debt level is low and not considered a risk
Porsche with one of the highest profit margins per carPorsche, one of the automotive manufacturers with one of the highest profit margins per car in the world. After RACE, Ferrari, it's Porsche, it seems to me.
This stock has returned to its IPO price...
Undervalued in my opinion.
- Price-To-Earnings ratio (12.9x) is below the German market (16.1x)
- Earnings are forecast to grow 5.77% per year
- Earnings grew by 3.3% over the past year
- Analysts in good agreement that stock price will rise by 33.9%
- No risks detected for P911
- Revenue is meaningful (€41B)
- Market cap is meaningful (€67B)
- The company’s earnings are high quality
- Debt level is low and not considered a risk
Porsche Holding: Bottom formation 🔄The Porsche Holding share price is approaching the 78.60% retracement of the magenta target zone between €56.44 and €36.61. Here, we expect the low of the magenta wave 2, which has been dragging on since 2021. With the low formed, a reversal should then take place, and the price should rise well above the resistance at 60.18€.
Porsche ( $P911 ) Short ideaOne of the iPOs that I've tracking, and following a standard pattern. Together with a short term (or likely more) top in EU indices, we should see this go much lower after the initial move liquidating early shorters and now FOMO buyers. Red line is stop loss, Green lines are TP1 and 2, respectively. GL
PorscheToday I analyzed Porsche Automobil Holding's symbol on the stock market. It was still in a downward trend for a long time frame, But the price has a correction and can respond to each of the two trend lines. So we can see a new bottom. So you should look for a suitable entry zone for Sell. However, it is far that the price will reach the trend line further; the price will likely go down before that.
Observe the money management and the stop loss.
Porsche: Ready to Race?Instead of stepping on the gas pedal, the Porsche stock corrected as soon as it touched our tourqoise target zone. We predict that the course continues to drop into the red zone between 56.44€ and 44.06€, until it completes the red wave (2). Following the correction, the trend should head towards the resistance at 69.20€.
In an alternative scenario with a 35% chance, the Porsche stock has the opportunity to push for a rapid turnaround now and exceed the 69.20€ resistance mark to gain further pace on the upper side.
BRUMM OR BRUH?A few days ago Porsche Holding presented their earnings and today we will find out if this company is a good buying opportunity, or not.
Buying points:
-close to a break out above the triangle
Indicators:
-> strong support in the 88.96 area (->fib 0.618)
-> hit the SMA 100 several time
-> relativ % divergence between VW shares which indicates a gap upwards (orange line)
Selling points:
-couldn’t stay above the 100 SMA
-MACD weekly, monthly indicate slow down
Fundamentals
-great earnings (estimates 4,3 -> got 8)
-Volkswagen EV (electric vehicle) trend
Conclusion
The technical analysis gives us too little information about the further course of events. But the fundamental data gives us a clear tendency where it is going, namely upwards, because the Porsche Holding gives you the VW shares more cheaply than to buy them directly. Looking at the orange line both share acted same where as now there is a gap to fill. Therefore, I want you to know that you are not buying the brand Porsche but also VW and other companies shares.