Something's wrong? S&P500 vs XLY:XLP + a history lesson/reviewWelcome! Today we'll have a look at an interesting development in the S&P500, as well as look back at some past history making events.
First up, I'm not predicting anything. I'm not in the business of predictions because it's a fools errand. I trade what happens, and until something happens all of this is academic. However, I am in the business of making money, and that means managing risk. When we see something in the markets that makes our little internal alarm bells start ringing, we should factor that into our decision making going forward.
Secondly, this isn't a unique analysis/comparison. I'm sure there's lots of articles out there covering a similar correlation between these two markets, so I'm not claiming originality.
Alright, let's go! So we're looking at a correlation between:
The S&P500, the behemoth of equity markets and benchmark of US economic healthy/activity (orange on the main chart).
XLY:XLP - a custom symbol that looks at the relationship between the Consumer Discretionary Sector (XLY), and the Consumer Staples Sector (XLP). In a nutshell, if this symbol (black on the charts) is moving up, consumers are spending more on discretionary items, and vice versa if it's moving down. The theory is that if consumers are spending on discretionary (read: luxury) items, they are feeling good about their situation and the situation of the economy going forward. The opposite is true if they aren't.
Why is this comparison interesting? Basically, these two symbols/markets should move in sync, and do have a strong historic correlation. A rising S&P500 is a sign of economic strength, which means XLY:XLP should be rising along with it. The REALLY interesting things happen when that correlation goes away.
Okay, we're going to commence with a review of previous correlation divergences, and a look at what happened to each symbol. By the end of our review you should have an idea of where I'm going with this, but I'll cover it at the end as well. I've created a second chart that is numbered so you can follow which market cycle/time period I'm talking about:
1. 2007-2009 GFC: Okay, let's start with the biggie. I won't go into the history or the fundamentals behind the GFC, so let's look at our charts. It's important to begin by noting that this was the longest correlation divergence of the last few decades - I'll leave you to decide whether that's significant or not.
What we can see on our chart is XLY:XLP peaking in late 2004, and forming a series of lower highs until the bottom of the markets fell out in 2007-2008. Contrast that with what happened to the S&P500 in the same period; a slow, steady rise, culminating in a peak in October 2007. What really jumps out at me from studying that period is how a week or two after the S&P500 peaked (was anyone calling it that back then?) the XLY:XLP symbol made multi-year lows (since 2003). Basically, if we take our theory that a rising XLY:XLP is a sign of economic strength, then something was seriously wrong with the US economy from 2004-2007. Of course, we now know that there was.
Lastly, because it'll become important later on... the momentum indicator on the main chart (it's based on the S&P500) shows a distinctive pattern seen prior to all market corrections over the last two decades. A series of lower highs; indicative of failing momentum in the market.
2. Market Bottom - 2009: The S&P500 bottomed out in early 2009 after falling 50% in 1.5 years. What we can see from our comparison is another correlation divergence, but a bullish one this time. XLY:XLP formed higher lows, and combined with a S&P500 momentum divergence of the same nature, it was a clear signal that markets had started reversing. I encourage you to check out that period in more detail; in particular, have a look at how XLY:XLP started rising sharply a few weeks before the S&P500 followed suit. It's no secret that the Consumer Discretionary Sector is a market leader in expansions, and that was a perfect sign of how you can use it to time markets - which some people say is impossible!
3. 2011 Downturn: Markets rose steadily for two years until early 2011, when the S&P formed the first of what would be three (roughly) equal peaks. Looking back at XLY:XLP, we can see that it actually topped out at that first peak in February 2011. From there it fell steadily, while the S&P500 sorted itself out and was ready to fall (read: smart money). Markets fell roughly 15-20% before recovering in late 2011.
4. Minor drop? This one is pretty interesting (well, I find it interesting). We can see another correlation divergence in 2014, when the XLY:XLP symbol formed lower highs, while the S&P500 kept rising. What I find interesting is the fact that this didn't lead to any sustained drop... However, if you look at the S&P500 in September 2014, you can see it actually fell quite heavily, and sharply, but recovered quickly. In fact, at it's peak it fell 10% in a month - it was the largest fall since 2011.
2014-2016 - Crazy town: Okay, let's get to one of the stranger periods in the S&P500 over the last few decades. Jumping back to our charts we can see that the S&P500 topped out in (roughly) mid 2015. However, XLY:XLP actually formed higher highs from March 2014 to November 2015. That latter peak was actually formed on a lower high on the S&P500 - clearly, something was askew. Sure enough, markets went haywire, and had two sharp corrections in what was effectively a sideways movement for the entirety of June 2015 - July 2016. One interpretation is the consumers were blindsided by the falls, and it was linked to other factors (do some research, it'll be interesting!). Note: Look at that distinctive bearish momentum pattern on the S&P500...
6. Recovery within a recovery: The S&P500 reached it's 2015 high in July of 2016, but we can see that XLY:XLP symbol was far more sluggish in that period. Fun fact: it wouldn't reach its 2015 high until late in 2017. However, the really interesting thing is that the true S&P500 market expansion didn't occur until the XLY:XLP symbol had its largest single week rise in years during the last week of October 2016. We even see a small correction in the S&P500 in the weeks prior to that. Once consumer discretionary spending recovered and surged, so did the S&P500 for the next 3-4 years (until now!).
7. Today - what's going on? We now reach more recent history. As we all know, the S&P500 has surged higher over the last few years, breaking records along the way. We had a mini crash in late 2018, which was quickly recovered, and today the index sits at all-time highs. Great? Well, yes... and no.
My concern (and remember this isn't a prediction - it's an observation on potential risk factors), is two-fold: firstly, XLY:XLP has seriously diverged from the S&P500, and peaked in June of 2018. Since then it's fallen into a distinctive bearish pattern of lower highs, and shows no signs of recovering. Consumers aren't happy or confident for some reason (rising interest rates, trade-war, and Trump are some of my initial thoughts). Combine that with what is by now, I hope, a fairly distinctive and obvious bearish momentum pattern on the S&P500. Momentum has been falling for over a year now (since January 2018), and scarily mirrors previous significant market corrections/downturns...
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Alright. So let's recap... We've had a look at some interesting patterns and correlations that can be found when you create a XLY:XLP symbol, and compare it to the S&P500 Index. We've examined previous market corrections, and hopefully drawn some interesting lessons that we can POTENTIALLY (I can't stress that enough) use going forward.
So, what am I saying about the health of the S&P500? Well, nothing really. The market is still rising, and until it's not, that's the only factor that is relevant. Betting against a rising market (especially an intrinsically upward biased one such as the S&P500), is a recipe for disaster. What I am saying is that everything doesn't seem as rosy as the S&P500 would have us think. Consumers are hurting and/or worried, and that's not good for the health of the US economy. Whether that will result in any downward correction is anyone's guess.
I'll sign off by saying that I remain long in equity markets. I've seen no sign of a proper correction underway, and in fact I won't until the day that markets fall heavily. I am, however, tightening by stop losses and adjusting my risk management procedures to potentially account for increased market volatility and bearish movements.
Okay, that's all for today. It's already an essay. I hope you've learnt something, and found this moderately interesting! Let me know if you have any queries/comments/suggestions.
All the best,
DD
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SP 500 ShortSp 500 Short
Setup Reasoning:
-Bearish ABCD Completion
-Bearish Shark inside of it
-1 Hr Uptrend already looks extended
-Bearish Divergence on the Daily
-Volume dropping on the daily
Market is telling me to sell.
Entry Trigger:
Aggressive- Sell Limit @ 3026 (Shark Completion 1.13)
Conservative- Wait for price to cross the Ema and break trendline support
Stop Loss Reasoning:
ATR should be at around 34 pips volatility when it reaches the limit order. Double that amount for stop loss
Take Profit Reasoning:
$2995 is where this bearish shark can switch to bullish 5-0 (50% fib) and we have a high volume node there which means it can act as support.
Is it time to short the S&P? I would say YES!!! Hello there
As the title of my idea indicates; I am going to place a short position on 2 weeks timeframe on the S&P SP:SPX The main reasons for this action:
1- Divergence between wave 3 and 5.
2- Bullish Candle in 1 & 2 weeks divergency
As of when to short; please refer to the below screenshot
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Stock Market Pullback and then Up Toward New All-Time-HighsI believe the markets will experience a minor pullback toward the weekly 50 day SMA levels (silver line) over the next couple of weeks. However, we should recover and move up to new all-time-highs by the end of the year. Current market conditions remind me of the cautiously optimistic sentiment in late-2016. Investors waiting in cash or short the market will feel pressure as markets continue to grind higher, which may cause an epic move such as that seen in late-2016/2017. Despite some bearish sentiment among investors, I remain bullish on the American stock markets going into 2020.
Black Monday Cometh My own indicator the Mojiadoji is flashing panic across the boards .Black Monday is upon us ,the rich will become the beggars ,the fools become the wise .
I'll be popping champagne while the Wall st wizz will be popping his head out a 44th storey window surely followed by the rest of his body and a few colleagues that went balls deep in this good times roll fake pump bubble ...Bubbles bubbles in the air some pop here and some pop on Black Monday .
If you ain't already short come opening bell I would prepare to tell that Gold digger wife and those snooty Apple branded brats to expect a satsuma in a sock for Christmas .
Black Monday cometh ....You never knew how ,But the Mojiadoji don't lie and you can take that to the bank ,If it's still open ...Busted flushes and broken dreams atop the news Tuesday morn.
Akin to a kid at a 3hr feature munching that XL bag of candy goodies mummy let him shovel in the bag til it was spilling out ,enjoying himself fist over fistful ,Mouth over mouthful . Now he's back in the car tummy starting to rumble and a few miles down the rd the inevitable spewfest begins.The smell of vomit permeating the vehicle bringing his fellow journeymen to convulse . Mummy loses control as her foot glides off the pedals slippy sliding in little Timmy's bile and have decayed Gummy bears smashing into a wall and they all die an almost instant death ...That's the markets from start to finish of this fake pump hyped ride .
The Mojiadoji says hello darkness my old friend ,Your Audemars Piguet watches will glisten in the evening sun as you plummet from your ivory towers ...Pack a lunch it's gonna be the longest shortest day of your Champagne Charlie life for Black Monday Cometh .
SPY Bear Call Spread; Indicators mirror start of May 19 declineWe maintain a bearish outlook on the entire market, and are using the 298/299 call credit vertical to assume our bearish position. We are selling the 298 calls while simultaneously longing the 299 calls to execute a risk-defined trade. With a breakeven of 298.37, we make our maximum profit of $37 per contract when the underlying price drops below that of the short strike: 298. We suffer the maximum loss of $63 above the long strike of 299. Using a bear credit call spread instead of a bear debit call spread, we are able to assume a better risk/reward ratio: .58 compared to the put alternative with the same strikes which entails a ratio of .56.
Our bearish outlook is fundamentally driven, but also technically supported as we feel the market is extremely overbought, and many indicators further this notion. The SlowK Stochastic indicator (an indicator from 0-100) read a whopping 95, with the slowK in the 70s, mirroring the readings of May 1st, the start of the major downturn that caused SPY to lose nearly 550 basis points of its value in the month of May. The MACD is showing signs of impending bearish movement as the second derivative is negative. The DI+ is also decreasing at the moment, while the DI- is increasing on the Wilder ADX. The RSI also reached 70, again, just like May. The CCI agrees, as the reading indicates that this security is strongly overbought, with a value of 168, near the 170 seen on 4/29, prior to the drastic down-move. These similarities ought to be duly noted, and are indicative of the strong bearish sentiment that is beginning to prevail.
Fundamentally, there are many key issues that haven't been solved, yet, somehow we are near all time highs. The notion that with trade tensions still present (between not only China, but also the EU and Mexico, among others) all time highs are reached is befuddling to us. Using the CAPE (cyclically adjusted price to earnings multiple) measure promulgated in Benjamin Graham's classic, companies also seem extremely overvalued. Also, we note that the strong jobs report on Friday completely curtails the chance of a 50 bp Fed Funds Rate cut, and lowers the possibility of the 25 bp cut that is priced into rate markets.
SPX500 - Bounced from 50 Fib - LONGSome soft of consolidation is required before moving higher up. SPX lost momentum yesterday, was pulled back. We are still seeing bulling movement which might climax on Friday late afternoon (before G20).
If G20 summit opens a door for further negotiations between Trump and Xi, we shall see another ATH or at least confirm it.
-=Never give up=-
TRADERSAI - A.I. Driven Model Trades for FRI 06/14Earnings and Economic Headlines to begin to Replace Geopolitical Concerns?
No market-moving geopolitical news overnight and that might be allowing the markets to focus on economic and earnings related headlines. Chip stocks' earnings concerns (read, Broadcom's), China's weak economic numbers, IEA's oil demand outlook, and Gold's rise...these are likely to consume investors' sentiments today, heading into the weekend.
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S&P looks bullishIve switched my position from bearish to bullish considering the FED delayed interest rate hikes until possibly next year. Possible target for this S&P index is mid $300's.
Forming an inverse Head and shoulders with a strong right shoulder compared to the left which is very bullish.
Intermediate - bullish (1 year)
Macro - bearish (3 -10 years)
SPX reverse off horizontal swing high resistanceSPX reversed off our first resistance at 2956.0 (horizontal swing high resistance) where a strong drop might occur below this level pushing price down to our major support at 2856.0 (horizontal swing low support, 38.2% Fibonacci retracement , 100% Fibonacci extension ). Stochastic is also approaching support.
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S&P 500 Bullish until July?After further analyzing the trend the S&P 500 continues to find support on this uptrend channel as well as the RSI on the Daily time frame. This leads me to believe that the S&P 500 is going to continue to rally higher. Next Target for me is 2992. This of course is negated if the upwards supporting trend line is broken on both the RSI and the price. Eventually we will have to get a break out below the support and undergo a correction and based on the timeline I am looking at we could continue to rally until sometime in July or late June. So for now go long my previous short position was closed at the support level since it did not get broken. So for now longing is the way. :) If you like my analysis give me a like and follow for more content thanks :)
Possible inverse head and shoulder forming?The S&P has finally retraced back to the all-time highs! However, there are quite a few Bearish divergences forming in the chart which leads me to believe a larger correction is coming. This possible correction may lead to a potential inverse head and shoulder pattern which in return is Bullish for the macro trend. If we were to retrace back down to the.618 fib level then rally back to retest all-time highs, we could get a bull break that can take the markets to new highs. For now, we wait and see what happens but the overall macro trend is bullish so far. The recommended course of action is to buy the dips if you're a long term investor or if you want to trade open up a short at current levels and see if the market pulls back. If you like my analysis please leave a like comment and follow will gladly appreciate it :)
Angle of the January-April Bull Rally Is One of Many Red FlagsSPX has trended at a 57 degree angle since the 2008 financial crisis. While trend line theory suggests any stock above a 45 degree angle is troublesome, perhaps the SPX is an exception. However, the current trend we are witnessing is at a 67 degree angle, suggesting a significant pullback is warranted. Take this with the global fundamentals (slowing Europe, slowing China) and oscillators which indicate overbought, SPX is probably in for a bit of a healthy pullback.
S&P 500 Continues To Head HigherLast post: March 20th 2019. See chart .
Review: Price was at a level of support.
Update: Price has since bounced off that level of support and continued to move higher.
Conclusion: The next major area of resistance is the previous all-time high. If price can break this level then we should see big bullish moves in US stocks.
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SPY Market Maker Stop Loss Hunt Will Begin Soon. Short time.The market has been roaring up since the december lows.
We are nearing huge resistance around $280's.
I believe we will surpass resistance only to come back down again and crash.
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Buy long term shorts around $284-$286 SPY.
-Shaggad