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The start of a long train of correlationsSorry for the late post, I had to tweek this chart here. This is a comparison chart showing real disposable income to personal consumption expenditures, personal savings and corporate profit. Notice how the top two are now inverted. It's not 100% but that is your inflation. Less disposable income, higher priced expenditures. On the bottom I was tracking savings vs Corporate Profit. This was caused by the hand outs during the pandemic. This has now reverted back to pre 2020 levels after all that savings caught up in peoples accounts during the pandemic was needed after the money stopped flowing. But, how does this correlate to the previous bonds chart? Well in a subtle and curious way. As the correction in savings happened, inflation kicked up. This is highlighted by a date range. Red date ranges are 08 and the pandemic and the yellow is the inflation start. The key to the bond chart correlation being inflation. Now I get the obvious here, No I dont think the free handouts caused all this inflation, that would be crazy, just something I was tracking is all. In reality there are WAYYYYYY to many things going on to put inflation into a chart. Metals are still close to short supply, tech is hurting bad, the supply chain is still semi frozen and governments are still flip flopping between open and closed.
FRED:DSPIC96
by Joshuakm
The start of a long trainNote: FEEVRWS is only meant to be a analysis and early warning system, and is in no way a substitute for your regular work. Please do your own due diligence and if needed, consult a trusted professional. Today we will be looking at economic correlations and why bonds are moving the way they are. As of right now the 10y and 7y are a quarter of a quarter of a quarter of a percent away from inverting and a inversion percent in the 30y to 20y is as much currently. 30y to 20y is already inverted. There are MANY reasons why and this is not so simple. Bonds are selling off across the board with only the 1mo remaining the same. Tho today seems to be about flat, the trend continues. Housing, rate hikes, savings, inflation, liquidity, fomo speculation and foriagn investments are all tied to this and as a result the analysis will continue with other charts produced today
TVC:US30Y
by Joshuakm
short bondsUS 10year treasury bonds continue being bearish since we recently established a new downtrend, driven by the announcement of the FED to decrease QE. We currently saw a little bit of consolidation, we are now trading at trend resistance while oscillators at maximum, due to time cycles we will see a bearish continuation into february. Ps. bonds will deliver a 2% return at the end of 2024 according to rate hike plans if the FED, while inflation is around and will probably stay above 7 % , who wants to buy bonds in such an environment ? bonds would have to surely deliver a 5 % yoy gain in price. It will take a while to gain that confidence into bonds.
CBOT:ZB1!Short
by MrKrft
Bonds Rally with the Stock SelloffBonds have gotten a lift off the selloff in stocks. An influx of risk off sentiment gave ZN a much needed lift back to the 128 handle. We had dipped in the very lows of the 127 handle, and were appearing to get ready to break into the 126's, when the fallout from stocks caused a notable risk off shift. We have broken through our level at 127'22. As predicted yesterday, we crossed the vacuum zone and touched 128'10, the first level in the 128 handle, before retracing slightly. At the time of this writing, we are hovering just under this level. We will see if the fallout in stocks continues today, in which case, we can expect higher levels, the next target being 128'24. The Kovach OBV has turned solidly bullish, likely a bit more than it would if this were just a simple relief rally. But if the selloff continues, 127'22 and 127'08 are the next targets to the down side.
CBOT:ZN1!Long
by quantguy
High consumer price inflation is good for borrowers, right? Err…Another Market Myth Exposed The Nasdaq index has now declined by 10% from its November high , prompting the mainstream financial media to call it a “ correction ” whatever that means. I think they call it a bear market when it is down by 20% . Many stocks have already fallen by at least that amount, and realistically, it’s all semantics anyway. It’s early days, but what is curious, though, is that high yield , or junk , bonds continue to hold up. To be fair, junk bonds, as measured by the U.S.$ CCC & Lower-rated yield spread reached peak outperformance in June last year and have underperformed since, but yet there have been no signs, as yet, of any rush out of the sector. I heard an analyst on Bloomberg TV yesterday say that he was bullish of credit, particularly junk, because it does well in an accelerating consumer price inflation environment. The theory is that higher consumer price inflation means that companies can increase prices, thereby increasing revenue in nominal terms. At the same time, though, the amount the company owes via its bonds remains the same, thereby decreasing the debt’s real value and making it easier to service. It’s a win-win situation apparently, and that means junk bonds outperform. The opposite should be true under consumer price deflation. Junk bonds should underperform because, with nominal corporate revenues declining, the value of debt goes up in real terms, making it harder for corporates to service it. OK, I thought, channeling Mike Bloomberg’s mantra of, “ in God we trust, everyone else bring data ” let’s have a look at the evidence. The chart above shows the U.S. dollar-denominated CCC & Lower-rated yield spread versus the annualized rate of consumer price inflation in the U.S . Apart from the period of 2004 to 2006, there’s hardly any evidence to suggest that accelerating consumer price inflation is good for the high-yield corporate debt market. Junk bonds were only just being invented by Michael Milken in the 1970s, and didn’t come into popularity until the 1980s, but we can examine corporate bond performance by looking at the Moody’s Seasoned Aaa Corporate yield spread to U.S. Treasuries. Doing so, reveals that, in the first major consumer price inflation spike, between 1973 and 1975, corporate debt underperformed as the yield spread widened. In the second major consumer price inflation spike, from 1978 to 1980, corporate debt briefly outperformed but then underperformed dramatically, as annualized price inflation reached 13%. It goes without saying, of course, that this analysis is just looking at the relative performance of corporate debt under accelerating consumer price inflation. The nominal performance is another matter. Borrowers and lenders ( bond investors ) both got savaged in the 1970s with the Moody’s Seasoned Aaa Corporate yield rising from 3% to close to 12%. The conclusion we must reach is that the level of consumer price inflation does not matter to relative corporate bond performance. It does, however, matter for nominal performance . More semantics, some may say. What really matters is how it affects one’s wallet.
FRED:BAMLH0A3HYCEducation
by ferGOD
One of the Most Important Charts You Will Ever SeeThe bond market often has an inverse relationship with the stock market since it is considered a 'risk off' asset. Bonds generally yield more interest for longer maturities. For example, a bond investor in a healthy economy would expect a greater yield for a 10 year treasury compared to a shorter duration. However, the yield curve can 'invert' (shorter term bond actually pays greater interest) when bond traders believe a recession is imminent. Since the Fed's reaction to a recession is to drop short-term rates to 0% and recessions cause 'risk on' assets like stocks to drop, the smart money will rotate from higher risk stocks (like tech, since it's future cash flows are highly sensitive to the cost of capital) and hide out in bonds to weather the storm and minimize downside risk. Yield inversion info: www.investopedia.com This chart shows the interest spread between 10 and 2 year treasuries in blue. Shaded vertical boxes show where the yield curve inverted in the past. The S&P is in red (at least I think it's red. I am color blind). Note how the shaded boxes start just prior to the dot.com peak, the GFC peak, and even the Covid recession. Currently the interest spread is heading back towards zero as the Fed is set to hike short-term rates to combat inflation, likely beginning in March. At it's current drop rate, the spread will invert in ~Q4 of this year, which means a recession is on the table for the first half of 2023. Keep checking back for updates as I will be watching this one VERY closely.
TVC:US10YShort
by HypnoticStrix
2
Another monumental momentNote: FEEVRWS is only meant to be a analysis and early warning system, and is in no way a substitute for your regular work. Please do your own due diligence and if needed, consult a trusted professional. Before I get into this I urge everyone who sees this chart to back track to the .com bubble on this chart, then move up to 08, then check out pre lock downs. With that out of the way, lets get into the FEEVR Analysis! As mentioned above you should look at the historical data provided on this bonds chart. Today and over the weekend we saw the 30yr-20yr invert. This is bad for a number of reasons but mostly having to do with debt and inflation. as stated previously, the inversion marks the start of what can only be assumed as a flee from 'safe haven assets'. This is bad because bonds as a percent, tightening, has historically preluded some of the biggest economic and market wide black swans. Looking at the bond market it is repeating this trend and only seems to be starting which would make me assume through an educated guess that we are about 1 1/2 to 2yrs out from another major black swan, market altering event. Please, please, please be careful. We can time this and there is sure to be lots of money made during this time, just DONT be the last one to the exit. I am currently working on a analysis on the Comms sector of the S&P. That will be out tomorrow. Ic alle dit, telecommunications is rocking and internet is failing. I have identified manipulation in this sector on RRG and now I am just trying to nail it down on the charts here for you all to see. Happy monday everyone!
TVC:US30Y
by Joshuakm
US10Y approaching a structured topThe US Government Bonds 10 YR Yield has been trading within a Channel Up since the early August low. The price is currently way above the 1D MA50 (blue trend-line) and after a strong rally it is now within a structured Channel Up. The pattern resembles the October structured Channel Up, which led to a top and pull-back back below the 1D MA200 (orange trend-line). Assuming this stands again, we should be expecting a top by the end of next week. In any case, if the 1.695 Support breaks earlier, the target would be the 1D MA200. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Please support this idea with your likes and comments, it is the best way to keep it relevant and support me. ** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TVC:US10Y
by TradingShot
2
The market is overly complacent about interest rate riskMarkets Have Been Celebrating No Corporate Tax Hike Stocks have been marching higher as the risk of a near-term corporate tax hike evaporated due to hard bargaining by centrist Democrats Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema. Prediction markets are now putting the odds of no corporate tax hike at about 88%: www.predictit.org In fact, the single largest line item in the Build Back Better Act is actually a large tax *cut* which disproportionately benefits the highest earners. That's certainly a bullish development for markets, because it means more billionaire money chasing stocks. But They've Been Ignoring the Risk That Interest Rates Will Rise I think markets are ignoring interest rate risk, though. The passage of the Build Back Better act means that the US Treasury will be issuing a lot more treasury bonds over the next few years in order to fund new spending, and it will be doing so at a time when the Federal Reserve is tapering its bond-buying program. That means that private investors will have to absorb that over-supply of treasuries. And private investors are likely to demand higher interest rates than the Federal Reserve would. In other words, a supply-and-demand shock in the bond market could be about to send interest rates up. Bonds May Have Just Flashed a Warning Sign Today TLT (a major treasury bond ETF) made a big bearish engulfing candle today and closed below the 200-day EMA. (Bond prices move the opposite direction from rates, so rising rates = falling bonds.) The move came after the Fed's announcement that it will cut bond-buying in half this month and stop bond-buying altogether by mid-next year. I bought a TLT put yesterday and took profit on it today at the 200-day EMA for a 30% gain, but TLT actually continued downward and ended the day below the 200-day. It still has support from the 20-day EMA, so the question tomorrow is whether the 20-day will hold. If TLT doesn't hold support at the 20-day, then I think we're likely to see tech and pharma stocks follow it down. We could well be at the beginning of a significant correction for both bonds and stocks. Rising rates would be bad for growth companies, and especially bad for cash-poor companies that finance their growth through debt. (Pharmaceuticals, for instance, could be especially hard-hit.) Rising interest rates make it harder for those companies to get financing. The Nasdaq index has recently been selling off whenever rates rise (and bonds fall). Rising rates are better for banks than for tech, and could lead to outperformance by XLF. Smart Money Has Been Going Short Bonds for Months For the last couple months, a lot of smart money has been going short bonds on the expectation that bond rates will rise and bonds will fall. Ordinarily I'd hesitate to pile into such a crowded trade, but sometimes the crowd is right. The put/call ratio on TLT is 1.7, a big bearish bet. And an indirect way to be short bonds is to be short tech. The put/call ratio on the tech-heavy QQQ right now is an even more bearish 2.0. If you have heavy long exposure, especially to tech and growth, now is probably a good time to put some hedges on. Markets Have Been Celebrating No Corporate Tax Hike Stocks have been marching higher as the risk of a near-term corporate tax hike evaporated due to hard bargaining by centrist Democrats. In fact, the single largest line item in the Build Back Better Act is actually a large tax *cut* which disproportionately benefits the highest earners. That's certainly a bullish development for markets, because it means more billionaire money chasing stocks. But They've Been Ignoring the Risk That Interest Rates Will Rise I think markets are ignoring interest rate risk, though. The passage of the Build Back Better act means that the US Treasury will be issuing a lot more treasury bonds over the next few years in order to fund new spending, and it will be doing so at a time when the Federal Reserve is tapering its bond-buying program. That means that private investors will have to absorb that over-supply of treasuries, and they are likely to demand higher interest rates than the Federal Reserve would. A supply-and-demand shock in the bond market could be about to send interest rates up. Bonds May Have Just Flashed a Warning Sign Today TLT (a major treasury bond ETF) made a big bearish engulfing candle today and closed below the 200-day EMA. (Bond prices move the opposite direction from rates, so rising rates = falling bonds.) The move came after the Fed's announcement that it will cut bond-buying in half this month and stop bond-buying altogether by mid-next year. I had bought a TLT put yesterday and took profit on it today at the 200-day EMA for a 30% gain, but TLT actually continued downward and ended the day below the 200-day. It still has support from the 20-day EMA, so the question tomorrow is whether the 20-day will hold. If TLT doesn't hold support at the 20-day, then I think we're likely to see tech and pharma stocks follow it down. We could well be at the beginning of a significant correction for both bonds and stocks. Rising rates would be bad for growth companies, and especially bad for cash-poor companies that finance their growth through debt. (Pharmaceuticals, for instance, could be especially hard-hit.) Rising interest rates make it harder for those companies to get financing. The Nasdaq index has recently been selling off whenever rates rise (and bonds fall). Rising rates are better for banks than for tech, and could lead to outperformance by XLF. Smart Money Has Been Going Short Bonds for Months For the last couple months, a lot of smart money has been going short bonds on the expectation that bond rates will rise. (Bond prices move the opposite direction from rates, meaning that rising rates cause prices to go down.) Ordinarily I'd hesitate to pile into such a crowded trade, but sometimes the crowd is right. The put/call ratio on TLT is 1.7, a big bearish bet. And an indirect way to be short bonds is to be short tech. The put/call ratio on the tech-heavy QQQ right now is an even more bearish 2.0. Inflation Numbers Will Determine Where We Go from Here FOMC futures are currently forecasting that the Fed will hike rates 2-3 times by the end of next year, with a small chance of 4 rate hikes. As But as John Cochrane argues, FOMC futures have historically tended to be too hawkish: johnhcochrane.blogspot.com There's a lot of political incentive in Washington, D.C. to keep rates low, so the Fed almost certainly won't raise rates until inflation forces their hand. (Raising rates is primarily a tool to control inflation.) So keep an eye on the inflation numbers as we go forward from here. Inflation over the past decade has tended undershoot expectations, and many economists still believe that the current bout of inflation will prove to be transitory. So it may well turn out that we just get one or two rate hikes, and then inflation stabilizes and everything returns to normal. For now, I am expecting a short-term correction in both bonds and stocks, but a stabilization in the medium term. Shipping prices have been falling: And commodities prices look like they may start to come down as well: Hopefully these are early signs that inflation will be transitory after all. But the last reading on the Citi Inflation Surprise Index was an all-time high, so beware. If the pandemic has taught us anything, it's that there's definitely a limit to how far and fast we can push deficit spending before inflation kicks in. Pandemic deficit spending in 2020 caused high inflation in 2021. The question now is whether inflation will run away or normalize. This is an unprecedented situation, so nobody really knows. But a lot will depend on whether the Fed and Congress can practice some fiscal discipline, or at least convince markets that they will.
NASDAQ:TLTShort
by ChristopherCarrollSmith
15
What 3 Events Will Traders Be Watching This Week? 17 Jan – 21 JaWhat 3 Events Will Traders Be Watching This Week? 17 Jan – 21 Jan, 2022 Monday, January 17: YoY China Retail Sales Dec Year over year Retail Sales in China is predicted to slow in December 2021’s reading from 3.9% to 3.7%. The Offshore Yuan has eyed a sub-6.34000 value against the USD since December 2021 but hasn’t held the nerve to stay this low for anything more than a brief intraday flirtation. The USDCNH is currently on the precipice of this level, trading at 6.35283 and could finally close sub-6.34000 in a daily time frame if an unexpectedly strong December Retail Sales report helps dispel rumblings of a weakening Chinese economy. Tuesday, January 18: BoJ’s Press Conference The Bank of Japan’s (BoJ) Governor Haruhiko Kuroda will speak on Tuesday Evening. No significant changes to the Bank’s ultra-loose monetary policy are expected, but traders will watch for signals concerning future rate hike decisions. The market may have already begun anticipating such, with Japanese Yields hitting a six-year high last week, and with it, the Japanese Yen experienced its best weekly gain in six months. Wednesday, January 19 to Friday, January 21: Wednesday: YoY UK Inflation Rate Dec Thursday: Canadian YoY Inflation Rate DEC Friday: Japanese YoY Inflation Rate DEC The market will be reacting to three important inflation data reports In quick succession for the last three days of the week. A 0.1 percentage point increase is expected for all three reports. Perhaps the most important to watch will be Friday’s report from Japan as it can be considered in tandem with the BoJ Monetary Policy Minutes report, which is released twenty minutes after the inflation report.
by BlackBull_Markets
TLT - Extreme Losses Ahead / Bond Market Peak March 2020Yields rising will only serve to further drive - ZN (10 Yr Futures), ZB (10 Yr Futures), and TLT into the Abyss. They have all broken down, with the 10 Yr Yield moving up significantly Friday back towards 1.8. We indicated over the past 7 Month the day of reckoning for Bonds was fast approaching. In November I doubled down with further warnings explaining in great detail the larger Issues for Bonds to reiterate the Intermediate and Long Term Risks. My Thesis for Bonds was they would become "perpetual" Instruments whereby Holders would be able to clip their Coupons but unable to redeem them one day in the not too distant Future. The Debt cannot be serviced, even with cheaper Dollars. We see the effects of all the excesses sloshing around. It will continue to choose valueless propositions outside of Real Estate, Equities, Metals, Commodities, Energy and Meta in the Wings. The Wind cried Mary over and overstating it was lunacy, Bonds would benefit in any serious Selling of Equities. In Sum, I was the fool, idiot, and wrong in the absolute. This has not happened, instead, the conventional analysis, dependent on a Paradigm that no longer exists... it failed and very badly. The Curve is not steepening. This is where the Bond Participants, Touts, and YouTube Tribe - got it 100% wrong. It is quite simple - there are Capital Stocks for rotation, Equities will eventually see inflows as Bonds continue their collapse. TLT will be decimated as will ZN and ZB. As Captial from Bonds flows to Equities once the breakdown finds Bond Buyers exiting the Complex as they realize their mistake(s) - this will serve to drive Equities far Higher for a short period of time. This will be the 5/5 of the Larger 5/5 for the Equities Complex. We will see a parabolic melt-up in Equities once this begins - after this correction completes. It will be the Fuel for the Final move up in the Equity Complex. The Federal Reserve will, at some point, go too far, make a large Policy mistake and then Equities will collapse. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ It takes time to turn a Battleship. Bonds have turned from the Historic End of their Supreme reign for decades. Price may range for a short period of time, but make no mistake, Bonds have entirely lost their Status Globally. If you somehow believe the Federal Reserve will support the Bond Complex, you have had multiple opportunities to see the Forrest and no longer trip on twigs. It has been detailed here since July of 2021.
NASDAQ:TLT
by HK_L61
8
FIngerprints of the Past Point to an Uncertain FutureWhat can the past teach us about the present, furture? What do Energy, Interest Rates, and Volatility have in common? Perhaps more than meets the eye. One could surmise this has been ongoing since 2000, one could argue since the 80's. Cycles repeat, can gets kicked.....until we run out of kicks, then the roosters come home to roost, (and they do occasionally need to come home. My eyes are on Q2. Tightrope between now and then. Black swans (Russia/Ukraine, Inflation, Tightening and Interest Rate provide the catalyst. Not financial Advice.
TVC:US10YShort
by AlphaRainmaker
1
Correlation of Different Markets with Forex: CheatsheetOne of the biggest things you should understand as a trader is prices don’t just go up and down (well, maybe on a really small timeframe they’re more chaotic). They’re usually backed by some actions, data and things happening in other markets. This all creates general economic tendencies. But how do we know what affects dollar/currency pair and how? Well, here is a quick cheat sheet for that case. More importantly with an explanation of why. 😊 USD and Gold (negative) Investors prefer to abandon the dollar in favor of gold during times of economic uncertainty. Gold, unlike other assets, retains its inherent worth. Gold and NZD/USD (positive) New Zealand (number 25) is a major gold producer. Gold and AUD/USD (positive) Australia is the world's third-largest gold producer, exporting around $5 billion worth of gold each year. Gold and USD/CAD (negative) Canada is the world's fifth-largest gold producer. When the price of gold rises, the pair tends to fall (CAD is bought). Gold and USD/CHF (negative) Gold backs up more than a quarter of Switzerland's reserves. As gold prices rise, the pair falls (CHF is bought). Oil and USD/CAD (negative) Canada is one of the world's top five oil producers. It exports 5..5 million barrels of oil per day to the United States. As oil prices rise, the pair falls. Bond Yields and USD (positive) Higher bond returns attract greater investment to a country's economy. This makes its native currency more appealing than the currency of another economy, resulting in lower bond yields. Here it’s more about looking out for bond differences between countries. For instance, if bond difference between UK and United States goes down, this will cause GBPUSD fall as well. Gold and EURUSD (positive) Because gold and the euro are both considered "anti-dollars," if gold prices rise, the EUR/USD may rise as well. USD and Stock Market (depends on the market situation, mostly positive) So, here is a little weird one. Strong stock market is an indicator of a strong economy. So as company gets stronger -> stock price goes up -> attracting more international investors to step in, who have to get local currency in order to buy a local stock -> this cases dump of other currency in favor of the currency we’re intending to buy the stocks with (in our case USD). Seems easy? On the other side, people from the local economy dump their dollar/bond holdings to acquire more stocks weaking the currency itself. That’s why it’s a complicated love story. This correlation is quite different depending on the volumes for both cases. Enjoy, family! But keep in mind that these tendencies change to some extent as the world economy shifts/develops. Make sure to always stay updated and observe on your own.
TVC:DXYEducation
by Investroy
13
Bonds Ranging Between Our LevelsBonds have edged up, but as predicted, are facing resistance at 128'24. We saw a red triangle on the KRI at this level to confirm resistance. Currently, we are seeking support at 128'10, which we also anticipated. Two green triangles on the KRI are suggesting support here. As discussed yesterday, bonds are establishing value between 128'10 and 128'24. The Kovach OBV has edged up, but has leveled off. If ZN is able to break through 128'24, then there is a vacuum zone to 129'11. Otherwise, we should see support at 128'00.
CBOT:ZN1!
by quantguy
10Y YIELD CRATERING SOON? EXTREME FEAR EXPECTED IN 1Q OF 2022Hello traders & investors! As we look into the beginning of 2022 and use 10Y as our guide - expect enormous amount of fear coming to the markets/news channels/politician speeches.. I am expecting 40-50% correction on this 10 Year treasury. Cash will flow into bonds and DXY should strengthen at the same time too :) That being said, I expect this to unfold in first half of 2022. Multi-year and decade long views does not change - rates will climb much faster & higher. We have nice place to enter the markets in the times of extreme fear. Levels to watch: 1.52% & 0.90% Take care! This is not a financial advice.
TVC:US10YShort
by Patrikas10
2
Bonds dont like the clown showThe selling in bonds continues as inflation continues on. Wings in my area are almost $10/lb, highest i have seen this in my life (only 28 tho). Most of the time I check to see if there is any short term bond buying, this time however, short term bonds are selling too. It would seem that investors are spooked, Investors really have no where to run at this point. Crypto winter is here, Stocks did great today but those gains are no longer viable with a hawkish fed, homes are skyrocketing but people are already warning of a top, businesses have a labor shortage and with inflation it's obvious investors do not see US debt as a safe haven anymore. At least for now. I will keep you all updated. Hope you all have your popcorn at the ready.
TVC:US30Y
by Joshuakm
2
Government Bond Yield Surge - US2Y, US5Y, US10YThe crypto & stonk killer. Rates have been exceptionally low because of crisis. Look back to 2009. They went up in 2016 for a little bit while donnie complained. (he wanted that easy money because he tweeted about stonks his entire time in office). They drifted lower thereafter and then BAM! Another crisis the government had to print through. Where did all the PPP money go??? Kodak? DWAC? Nobody knows. Frauds abundant and the Fed will now run-off their near $9T balance sheet and start lifting rates. Plebs keep buying $SPY & Tesla calls or Simpcoins. #clueless Should be an epic show. *valuations matter Rates will bust the Fed's 2% Long Term average goal with ease. Crypto kids will go broke and they should blame their doge daddy for pumping them for personal gain. The "trillion" dollar companies will implode. Shibby Bitty too. All of it. GL
TVC:US02YLong
by EpicEconomics