$PTON High Risk No Reward Over the last year, Peloton Interactive, Inc. (NASDAQ: PTON) has been transitioning into a subscription business model instead of relying on its hardware sales. This could be an excellent move for the business since subscription models offer a higher profit margin. However, there is a litany of issues plaguing the company, including but not limited to a post-pandemic relapse, mass recalls due to safety concerns, mounting debt, and a $75 million settlement strangling its cash flow. This cacophony of cascading complications is the reason why shorting PTON stock could prove to be a profitable decision – especially with its 2023 annual report set to be released on August 24.
PTON Fundamentals
New Management Old Vision
PTON’s new management’s transition to a subscription business model was a step in the right direction for the early years of the pandemic, which favored subscription models over traditional retail options. This transition occurred in March 2022 and resulted in PTON’s revenue from subscriptions to rise 15% YoY, however, its victory did not last long. Shortly afterward, its management projected that the company is likely to experience a loss in subscriptions in Q4 2023.
This could be the start of a worrying trend since plateauing subscriptions could be catastrophic for companies with a subscription model. A prime example of this is Netflix which fell 39% after losing subscribers in Q1 2022. Since PTON’s own management is projected to lose subscribers, the results could be doubly worrying.
Stock movement aside, subscriptions make up 56% of PTON’s revenue. A loss in subscriptions will drastically affect the company’s ability to raise revenue, which in turn offsets its projections toward profitability substantially.
The reason for PTON’s expected loss of subscribers is likely partially due to inflation and a return to normalcy in a post pandemic world. According to the Kearney consumer institute, there is a steep decline in the subscription market post pandemic due to inflation. According to its surveys, around 40% of consumers think they have too many subscriptions. Additionally, they found that overall consumers were spending about $38 per subscription – amounting to $200 per month during the pandemic.
It is for that reason that more than half of the people in the survey want to decrease their subscription budget to under $50 per month. That said, PTON’s subscription is priced at $40 which, given the strain of inflation and its clients post pandemic free range lifestyle, may seem unreasonable. This shift away from a subscription oriented lifestyle is referred to as “The Great Unsubscribe” by Forbes.
In conclusion, if PTON were to have remained on its old hardware centered path it most likely would have suffered drastic losses due to mounting expenses and fewer sales. Having said that, the company’s subscription centered approach comes at a time when inflation is ravaging the country and its clientele is returning to a sense of normalcy after the pandemic, which is why things are not favorable for PTON Stock
Retailer Deals
PTON brokered deals with Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), and Dicks sporting goods (DKS). These deals allow both parties to sell PTON’s bikes – decreasing its inventory which provides it with cash and decreases logistics related expenses. Having said that, the deals may not be sufficient due to the sheer quantity of issues that the company is facing.
One of these issues is the fact that the market is likely saturated with PTON’s bikes due to its record sales in the early years of the pandemic. This saturation is not favorable for the company because its products are mostly one time purchases. In other words, the likelihood of a resurgence of hardware sales is slim which is especially worrying since its subscriptions are set to decrease in Q4 2023 according to management’s expectations. Not to mention the recall of 2.2 million bikes earlier this year that is impacting the company negatively from a fiscal and reputational standpoint.
Drifting Away From Breakeven Target
Currently, PTON’s management is attempting to increase its cash flow by cutting down on expenses that would limit growth. Due to these internal budgetary restrictions, the company experienced a remarkable 92% YoY reduction in expenses.
Despite this reduction, the company is in a tough spot. Overall, PTON seems to be veering away from its breakeven goal due to unanticipated factors like the $75 million settlement with DISH Network Corporation (DISH) over multiple patent infringements, which will likely pressure PTON’s $873 million cash balance.
Another factor is the recall of 2.2 million bikes due to safety hazards which will not only burden Peloton’s balance sheet but also burden its reputation as a luxury exercise equipment maker.
Bankruptcy Could Be On The Horizon
The bike recalls and the DISH settlement have put Peloton in an awkward position. The company has a standing debt of a $1 billion convertible note loan and a $690 million term loan due in 3 years which could pose a massive problem for it.
It is very unlikely that PTON would be given another zero-interest loan in the current interest rate environment, and the $873 million of cash on its balance sheet is not enough to pay off the $1 billion debt that matures in February 2026.
Its $1 billion zero-coupon bonds convert at about $239 a share, and at the stock’s current price, there is no incentive to convert. As a result, PTON will be required to pay the full $1 billion in February 2026 which the company will likely not be able to do since its expected decline in subscribers would lead to more losses for the company despite its cost reduction.
Additionally, the company’s debtors may not be enthusiastic about refinancing the debt due to the material risks facing the company’s existence in the long term due to the flaws of its business model even after shifting its focus to subscriptions. The reason for this is the management’s expectations of losing subscribers in Q4 which might be the start of PTON’s fall.
PTON’s debt-to-equity ratio is -13.2 since it has negative shareholder equity of $127 million which means that the company is a high risk investment and it may be better off seeking bankruptcy protection. As is, there is little to no upside for PTON Stock given its unclear and unstable future.
PTON does not have a lot of options and some of those available are pretty ugly. The most likely course for the company will probably be for it to stabilize its business in order to look attractive and await a white knight. If that does not occur, bankruptcy is the most probable course of action. Given its unclear and unstable future, investors may be better off steering clear of buying PTON stock while shorting it could prove to be a profitable decision, especially with its 2023 annual report set to be released later in August.
Technical Analysis
PTON stock recently exited its bearish trend and is now in a neutral trend, trading in a sideways channel between $6.75, and $8.38. Looking at the indicators the stock is above the 200, 50, and 21 MAs which is a bullish indication. Meanwhile, the RSI is neutral at 47 and the MACD is curling bullishly.
From a fundamental standpoint, PTON is not in a favorable position. Inflation and post pandemic life have led to a sizable decrease in consumers cutting down their subscriptions, which is likely the reason behind the company’s expectations regarding subscription loss in Q4 2023. Additionally, Peloton’s hardware purchases have likely saturated the market resulting in a decrease in hardware purchases. The icing on top of PTON’s diet cake, however, is its $1 billion debt which is larger than its current cash balance, and as a result, may cause PTON to resort to dilution or bankruptcy to restructure its business.
With that in mind, a possible play could be going short with an entry on retests of the $9 resistance and taking profits on retests of the 50 and 200 MAs as well as the $8 support.
PTON Forecast
As things stand, PTON is poised to take on drastic losses as a result of dwindling revenue brought about by a litany of reasons including inflation and post pandemic life negatively affecting subscriptions, crippling debt, safety concerns tarnishing its reputation, and its hardware sales decreasing likely due to saturation. Taking these factors into consideration, it is likely that the company will fall drastically in value or even go bankrupt which is why shorting PTON stock could prove to be a noteworthy decision.
PTON trade ideas
PTON | SHORTNASDAQ:PTON
if the bearish line is at 8.64, then the suggested targets are as follows:
Target 1: 8.38
Target 2: 8.17
Target 3: 7.94
These levels indicate potential price points where a bearish movement may occur based on the given data. Please note that market conditions can change rapidly, and it's important to conduct thorough research and analysis before making any trading decisions.
*In addition, based on the daily candlestick chart, there is also a bearish engulfing pattern observed. This pattern typically indicates a reversal of the previous bullish trend and suggests further downside potential for PTON. Combining this pattern with the mentioned bearish line and targets, it reinforces the bearish sentiment for the stock. As always, it's important to consider other factors and perform your own analysis before making any investment decisions.
PTON: A long Opportunity From 6.7 Looks TemptingPTON: A long Opportunity From 6.7 Looks Tempting
From the chart, we can see that PTON tested 6.7 area in September-2022.
Every time that the price tested this zone the minimum price increase was 40%
The chances are very high again that PTON could bounce again.
I am looking at as a minimum target 8.75 and 9.65.
As extended target 11.40
Thank you and Good Luck!
PTON Possible Long BreakoutIf NASDAQ:PTON breaks the $7.26 price level, it might come back to retest the $7.23 level, and if bounces off that price, it may go long to hit $7.83. If it fails to break out, then the trade fails, and it may continue falling lower. *This idea is just a possibility IF it does break out. I will try to let you guys know what happens.
$PTON When Ambitions Run Wild One of the largest luxury exercise equipment makers in the US, Peloton Interactive, Inc. (NASDAQ: PTON), Peloton stock was one of the stocks that gained a lot of traction during COVID-19. Amidst the lockdown, PTON’s sales skyrocketed; gyms were closed, and people wanted to exercise while locked in their homes. After the lockdown restrictions eased, PTON found itself in a tough spot. Gyms were open again, and other competitors like Life Fitness which were more focused on the commercial gym space thrived again. The inventory PTON built to meet demand became a liability. Today, PTON stock has lost more than 94% of its value and is now trading below $8.00, a far cry from its all-time high of $167.42 in 2021.
PTON Fundamentals
Recent years weren’t kind to PTON; its revenue after the pandemic boom is decreasing, and it still can’t make a profit from its “Connected Fitness Products”, and while it is turning a profit from its subscriptions, it’s still not enough to make the business profitable as a whole. PTON tried a new strategy in 2022 by appointing the former Netflix and Spotify CFO, Barry McCarthy, as its new CEO.
One of the new strategies PTON tried was branching out of exclusively selling its products on its website and selling them on Amazon and Dick’s Sporting Goods, reducing its logistic costs and exposing its products to a new audience. PTON also started focusing on cutting operating costs and increasing its revenue from its members’ subscriptions, which PTON succeeded at as its subscription revenue increased YoY in Q3 2023 by 15% from $369 million to over $424 million. Furthermore, PTON cut its marketing expenses by more than 32% and laid off more than half of its employees by the end of 2022 – reducing its operating expenses by more than 41%. But PTON still suffered from a drop in sales of its hardware, which declined more than 45% from last year.
PTON saw a 27% year-over-year decline in website traffic, according to Morgan Stanley analyst Lauren Schenk. Some think the decline makes sense since PTON started selling its products on Amazon and Dick’s Sporting Goods, so the decline in web traffic doesn’t necessarily mean a decline in its sales too.
The decline in sales can probably be attributed to PTON shifting to the more profitable subscription model and focusing on increasing free cash flow, which in turn slows down its growth. “Our business has shifted more towards subscription relative to Connected Fitness hardware. So as the app grows as a larger share of our business, that will continue to shift, and more of our revenue will be coming from subscription.” McCarthy said on the company’s earnings call. That may be worrying as it is expected that PTON will lose subscribers in Q4 for the first time in its history. CEO Barry McCarthy warned investors and analysts, saying “Q4 will be among our most challenging from a growth perspective.”
The standing debt of a $1 billion convertible note loan and a $690 million term loan due in 3 years doesn’t help PTON’s case much either, as it probably won’t be able to get another zero-interest loan due to the current economy. As of now, PTON has only $873 million of cash on its balance sheet, most of which will be tied to paying off the debt, as it probably won’t be able to meet the debt’s conversion rate of $239 per share. That, combined with PTON paying $75 million in settlements to DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH) over multiple patent infringements and the decline in sales and revenue, puts PTON in a tough position. PTON’s options are limited; it will either have to turn profitable to look attractive to a potential buyer or if it doesn’t, PTON’s worst fear could become reality and it could file for bankruptcy as the debt’s due date gets closer and closer.
It’s not all doom and gloom for PTON, though; there are some positive takeaways, albeit not many. PTON’s efforts to cut operating costs are working, reducing its cash burn by 92% YoY, and PTON is still expected to grow its connected fitness subscriptions by 4% YoY. PTON is also expecting to break even in cash flow by the end of the year if the one-time $75 million settlement with DISH is excluded.
As Liz Coddington, PTON’s CFO, said in the company’s latest earnings call, “the DISH settlement and related expenses associated with that settlement will put pressure on our free cash flow in Q4. So if you exclude those items, we actually are pretty close, but within striking distance of achieving free cash flow break-in.”. Additionally there is $625 million in PTON’s inventory that, if it successfully reduces, PTON would be saving a considerable amount of valuable storage costs, which would explain the collaboration with Amazon (AMZN) and Dick’s Sporting Goods (DKS). PTON is seemingly taking a lot of steps in the right direction, but it may still not be enough.
PTON Financials
In its Q3 2023 report, PTON reported $1.8 billion in assets including $874 million in cash and cash equivalents which marked a decline in PTON’s assets from $2.6 billion including $1.2 billion in cash and cash equivalents.
PTON’s total liabilities declined YoY from $3.4 billion to $3.1 billion, as its current liabilities decreased from $1.1 billion to $813.2 million, while its long-term debt saw a slight decrease from $2.331 billion to $2.330 billion
Revenue declined YoY from $964 million to $748 million, while the gross profit increased from $184 million to $270 million, due to a decrease in its cost of revenue from $780 million to $478 million. Operating losses decreased YoY from $735 million to $266 million and its net loss improved from $757 million to $275 million.
Technical Analysis
PTON stock’s trend is bearish, with the stock in a downward channel. PTON is trading below the 50 and 200 MAs which is a bearish indication and the MACD is approaching a bullish crossover. Meanwhile, PTON is trading above the 21 MA and the RSI is neutral at 49.
PTON stock just witnessed a major catalyst with the earnings release on May 4th, PTON stock is expected to further drop with the disappointing showing in the earnings release and the expected drop in subscribers in Q4. Considering the company’s massive debt load, bankruptcy could be a strong possibility for PTON.
With that in mind, a potential play could be going short with an entry on the retest of the 50 MA and take profits on retests of the 21 MA, the $6.75 support, and the retest of the lower trend line. Given the many concerns surrounding PTON’s future prospects, going short on the stock could prove to be profitable for traders. However, it should be noted that PTON is highly shorted and short squeezes could occur considering its status as a meme stock.
PTON Forecast
PTON is one of many cases of companies that thought they could sustain their growth after the pandemic but got hit hard by a different reality. The many measures taken to restructure the operations, including a more than 60% reduction in running costs, which led to a decrease in cash flow burn by 93% YoY. A sustainable and stable business may result from the shift to the subscription-based business model and attempts to boost cash flow. But as of now, PTON’s standing debt of $1 billion, decreasing YoY revenue, and the lack of sufficient cash flow will pose a challenge for its future.
PTON stock dipped more than 10% since the release of its Q3 earnings. Right now, PTON seems like a risky investment with no clear indications of its future, investors could be better off looking somewhere else.
Idea with up 100% growth potential In a sense, Peloton stock is a record holder.
Its stock is down 95% from its historic high.
In such companies, as a rule, a huge amount of short is collected.
With a small positive, the price begins to grow and shortists are forced to buy back securities at high prices, which accelerates the asset even more.
In NASDAQ:PTON shares, you can try the following trade:
• Long off price: $8.5
• Goals: $13.5, HKEX:17
• Growth potential up to 100%
• Volume per trade: up to 0.5-1% of the portfolio.
At current prices, the largest volume profile for the year.
The stock has been sideways for a long time and we believe that there may be a good upward momentum.
$PTON looking for some upward movement for a longBeen watching NASDAQ:PTON in this channel for a few weeks. Great place to go long if we can hold the channel with a potential move to the top of the channel. Will be watching this week to see if we can hold these higher lows and make some money.
NASDAQ:PTON had some great profits during COVID and then the recalls hit them hard. Stay disciplined traders!
Buying Peloton at trend of higher lows.Peloton - 30d expiry - We look to Buy at 8.61 (stop at 7.97)
The trend of higher lows is located at 8.60.
Trading has been mixed and volatile.
Expect trading to remain mixed and volatile.
We look to buy dips.
We are trading at oversold extremes.
Although the bears are in control, the stalling negative momentum indicates a turnaround is possible.
Our profit targets will be 10.14 and 10.54
Resistance: 10.00 / 11.00 / 12.00
Support: 9.09 / 8.40 / 7.68
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Look we know the bottom: here's why there's upsideWe found the bottom people. Look at that sideways movement. It's basically at the lowest it will be now. This stock is not going to 0 because let me tell you. The people who like peloton are not getting rid of their bikes. They're a huge up front investment and they are addicting as a form of workout. People aren't going to stop working out no matter what the rates do.
Peloton is an excellent stock to buy, as it has a strong track record of growth and is well-positioned to benefit from the current pandemic. The company is a leader in connected fitness technology and its connected bikes and treadmills have been popular in recent years, as the company seeks to capitalize on the trend of consumers looking for digital solutions to their fitness needs. Peloton also offers a variety of other products and services, such as group classes, virtual coaching, and a wide selection of streaming content. Peloton's financial performance has been impressive, with strong revenue growth and a healthy balance sheet, and the company is expected to continue to benefit from the current pandemic and its focus on the health and wellness market.
PTON multiple scenarios2 Hour chart: earlier, today, key level of 15.15-15.30 identified, refined it to 15.07-15.23. Loss of this support and no real obstacles to next potential pivot area of 13.50-14.10. Seeing a lot of Resistance/Support flips. If basing occurs at above 15, could serve as double bottom for a bounce back to the Drop Based Drop Supply zone from April/May. If support lost, and this drops below 12, keep an eye on that demand zone on the 2 H time frame. 7.10-8.30, extreme scenario in the near term, is an order block that's been validated multiple times.
Dont hold this bag...This company's product is way overpriced. Competitors are much cheaper (with superior exercise equipment) and comparable subscription service. Please don't hold this bag. Disclaimer: shorted at 16.45 -> exited at 15.30; likely to reenter if it breaks 16.45 again. Will short stepwise with a target of 25$
PTON back to the drawing boardA week ago I swung some PTON calls and, expecting a bad ER (it really wasn't that great) I predicted a fall to below 12. Obviously that was not the case. Revisiting the chart, I believe we have a case for a bearish scenario based on the following: Rejection in drop based drop supply zone, gap that's yet to be filled and the reality that earnings were missed by almost 50%. If I'm not mistaken, the company has a problem with cash as well. This rally was unsustainable for those reasons and the macro-economic environment, which will likely lead to a longer rate hike cycle and a higher than anticipated terminal rate. The explosive price action left behind some very big imbalances and I can see a correction in the next few days/weeks. The question is, how fast will this correction be. If it happens suddenly enough, there can be tremendous downside momentum with 13.40 as a likely area of support, based on historical reaction to this zone. If the momentum smacks this down below 13.40, I'd keep an eye on 12.76, the 50% on the fib. 11.13, the 66%, would place this at an ideal spot for support on the 200 DMA.
$PTON - Pointless SqueezePeloton still has tons of debt, failed management. Sure it has its scrubscriptions to it's classes, but is this company really gonna grow? Covid striken times were good for this company, what's gonna happen next to bring value to what they're doing?
Overbought. Should have a pullback eventually.