Yield Curve with SPX performanceYield Curve with SPX performance Unemployment rate goes along with T10Y-T02Yby Harry-YifeiPublished 3
Sorry for being so bearish This is not going to end well unfortunately. Stay with cash and wait for the discounts. Be patient Shortby elalemiamiPublished 222
Yield Curve Reversion Trade 2024The yield curve reversion is when the US10Y Treasury Yield becomes greater than the US2Y Treasury Yield and has a track record for signalling recession. I've been tracking the reversion for the past two years for any hint of sense of whether the US FED would cut FEDFUNDS rates or if bond traders would drive yields/prices towards reversion. This time, the fed's narrative is driving the reaction here. To express this idea I've put on long CBOT_MINI:10Y1! and short CBOT_MINI:2YY1! via the futures market. I'll keep rolling the futures contracts until the yield curve starts to form a top, likely a spread value between 1.5-3.0.Longby pb0316Published 0
10y/2y Treasury Yield Curve cant make up its mind10y/2y Treasury Yield Curve ⏳ Just cant make up its mind...... I wonder what Friday's stamp will be by PukaChartsPublished 6
US10Y2Y Spread vs SPX500History is repeating itself. When US Treasury 10Y minus 2Y yield turns positive and inching higher, investors should be precautious. by eganuPublished 222
Recession 2025So the 10Y2Y is finally crossing above zero. It has been a long time coming. I have been tracking that since middle 2022. I expect it to rapidly rise to signal a recession in late 2024 or first half of 2025. If you also measure the months between recessions, it is about 100 months. If we got back on schedule then we would see a recession around June 2025. by RCONPublished 1
T10Y02Y DEATH SIGNAL IS ONIt's just a matter of time to see Unemployment level rising while Spy could shift to a down trend. Painful times ahead folks. Scoop bitcoin and equities once unemployment levels spike #stockmarket #bearish #crash #stocks #bitcoin #bondsShortby elalemiamiPublished 1
10y/2y Treasury Yield Spread Un-inverts 10y/2y Treasury Yield Spread Un-inverts Something just popped its head above the 0 level on the daily chart over the past 3 days. Read my post below to understand what this means PUKA by PukaChartsPublished 114
THE YIELD CURVE HAS UN-INVERTED! WHAT'S NEXT?In this video, we discuss the yield curve represented by the T10Y2Y flipping positive and go over what has historically happened to the US economy when it comes to recessions. I also go over some practical non-financial advice.17:21by JonaliusPublished 111
Macro Monday 58 - Recession Warning Charts Worth Watching Macro Monday 58 Recession Charts Worth Watching If you follow me on Trading view, you can revisit these charts at any time and press play to get the up to date data and see if we have hit any recessionary trigger levels. They are very handy to have at a glance. CHART 1 10 - 2 year treasury yield spread vs U.S. Unemployment Rate Subject chart above Summary ▫️ The chart demonstrates how the inversion of the Yield Curve (a fall below 0 for the blue area) coincides with U.S. Unemployment Rate bottoming (green area) prior to recession onset (red areas). ▫️ The yellow box on the chart gives us timelines on how many months passed, historically, before a confirmed economic recession after the yield curves first definitive turn back up towards the 0% level (also see circled numbers showing connecting bottoming unemployment rate). ▫️ Using this approach, you can see that the average time frame prior to recession onset is 13 months (April 2024) and the max timeframe is 22 months (Jan 2025). ▫️ This is only a consideration based on historical data and does not guarantee a recession or a recession timeline however it significantly raises the probability of a recession, and the longer into the timeframe we are the higher that recession probability. ▫️ We typically we have a recession (red zones) either during or immediately after the yield curve moves back above the zero level. At present we are at -0.08 and fast approaching the zero level which is one of the most concerning data points of this week. ▫️ The unemployment rate moved from a low of 3.4 in April 2023 to 4.3 in July 2024. This is a significant increase and is typical prior to recession onset. Conclusion ▫️ If both the 10 - 2 year treasury yield spread and the U.S. Unemployment Rate continue in their upwards trajectory in coming weeks and months, this is a significant risk off signal and recession imminent warning. ▫️ The Sahm Rule triggered this week which has been one of the most accurate indicators of a recession starting. It is triggered when the three-month moving average of the U.S Unemployment Rate above rises by 0.50 percentage points or more, relative to its low over the previous 12 months. The Sahm rule triggering adds to recession concerns, however the designer of the rule has stated that I may not be accurate factoring in recent events like COVID-19 which has thrown unemployment and economic data to extremes. What is the 10-2 year Treasury yield spread? The 10-2 year Treasury yield spread represents the difference between the yield on 10-year U.S. Treasury bonds and 2-year U.S. Treasury bonds. It’s calculated by subtracting the 2-year yield from the 10-year yield. When this spread turns negative (inverts), it’s significant because it often precedes economic downturns. An inversion suggests that investors expect lower future interest rates, which can signal concerns about economic growth and potential recession. In essence, it’s a barometer of market sentiment and interest rate expectations What is the U.S. Unemployment Rate The unemployment rate is calculated by dividing the number of unemployed people by the total labor force in the U.S (which includes both employed and unemployed individuals). CHART 2 Interest Rate Historic Timelines and impact on S&P500 Summary ▫️ This chart aims to illustrate the relationship between the Federal Reserve’s Interest rate hike policy and the S&P500’s price movements. ▫️ This is obviously pertinent factoring in the expectations of a rate cut in Sept 2024. This chart which I shared in Sept 2023 may have accurately predicted this likely Sept 2023 interest rate cut but is this positive for the market? ▫️ Interest Rate increases have resulted in positive S&P500 price action ▫️ Interest rate pauses are the first cautionary signal of potential negative S&P500 price action however 2 out of 3 pauses have resulted in positive price action. The higher the rate the higher the chance of a market decline during the pause period. ▫️ Interest rate pauses have ranged from 6 to 16 months (avg. of 11 months). ▫️ Interest rate reductions have been the major, often advanced warning signal for significant and continued market decline (red circles on chart) ▫️ Interest rates can decrease for 2 to 6 months before the market eventually capitulates. ▫️ In 2020 rates decreased for 6 months as the market continued its ascent and in 2007 rates decreased for 2 months as the market continued its ascent. This tells us that rates can go down as prices go up but that it rarely lasts with any gains completely wiped out within months. Conclusion: ▫️ Rate cuts should signal significant concern as most are followed immediately by recession or followed by a recession within 2 to 6 months of the initial cut. This is high risk territory. ▫️ During the week I seen the 2 year treasury bill which matches closely the Federal Reserve interest rate cycle. The spread developing between the two suggests rate cuts are imminent. Remember point one above. The chart below: CHART 3 Relationship between 2 Year Bonds and Interest Rate ▫️ Very briefly, you can see the red areas where gaps formed when the Federal Reserve interest rate was lagging behind the 2 year treasury bonds declines. ▫️ Currently there is a large gap of 1.74% between the two data sets. The last time we had gaps like this were prior to the 2000 and 2007 recessions. Even prior to COVID-19 you can see the Federal reserve was playing catch up. What to watch for in coming weeks and months? ▫️ If both the 10 - 2 year treasury yield spread and the U.S. Unemployment Rate continue in their upwards trajectory in coming weeks and months, this is a significant risk off signal and recession imminent warning. ▫️ Since 1999 the Federal reserve interest pauses have averaged at 11 months. July 2024 is the 11th month. This suggests rate cuts are imminent. ▫️ The 2 year bond yield which provides a lead on interest rate direction is suggesting that rates are set to decline in the immediate future and that the Fed might lagging in their rate cuts. Furthermore, rate cuts are anticipated in Sept 2024 by market participant's. ▫️ Finally, rate cuts should signal significant concern as most are followed immediately by recession or followed by a recession within 2 to 6 months of the initial cut. Yet the market appears to be calling out for this. This is high risk territory. Combine this with a treasury yield curve rising above the 0 level and an increasing U.S. unemployment rate and things look increasingly concerning. We can keep any eye on these charts for a lead on what might happen next. I will be reviewing some other charts over coming days around jobless claims and ISM figures to see how positive and negative we are looking. PUKAby PukaChartsPublished 446
T10Y2Y 3M chart: Plotted US recessions since 1980US recessions since 1980 plotted on the T10Y2Y 3M chart. Orange circles indicate value on the curve and the Stoch RSI value at the start of the first month and year of recession. Red vertical bars are length of recessions. Orange vertical lines on the Stoch RSI are the first month and year of the start of the recession. Good luck traders. by AmbassadorjUpdated 5
10/2 Inverted Yield StrategyThe inverted Yield is basically 6/6 as an indicator of an oncoming recession. At initial inversion the stock market sees initial growth as rates go higher. It isn't until on average 16-19 months that a recession occurs after initial inversion. www.putnam.com A study by Bloomberg tracked performance of the S&P 500 against the 2 and 10 year US treasury inverted yield curve and found that the best time to sell equities in the stock market was when the inverted yield begins rising again and is at the -0.15 level. The best time to get back into the market and restart your DCA is when the inverted yield rose above the 2.15 level. This period typically takes 660-700 days to occur. www.bloomberg.com On April 1, 2022 the 2/10 yield curve inverted. As of today we are at 19 months. Today October 20th, 2023 the inverted yield curve turned up at -0.15. The vertical red lines are selling of equities at -0.15 and the green line indicated repurchasing of equities at the 2.15 line for the last two recessions. *This is not financial advice. Invest at your own risk and do your own due diligence. Shortby EasyZabboUpdated 2210
T10Y02Y spread reflects we are close folks. We are about to start an uptrend. We might see a recession in the next 6months to 12 months. by elalemiamiPublished 332
A mayor crash is due soon, T10y02y spread just trigger my entryA mayor crash is due soon, T10y02y spread just trigger my entry point. I will be opening a short position on SPY. A huge short positionShortby elalemiamiPublished 554
T10y2y suggesting a credit crunch I have been following the spread between these two yields for a while. It seems the trend is reversing and soon we could see it moving to the upside. Guppy emas confirming the close we are to that trend reversing. Unfortunately this conditions leads to pain to financial markets like in the past. And this follow an easing response by the Fed lowering rates. Gold might continue rising. Shortby elalemiamiPublished 1
RECESSION PROABILITY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES JAN - JUN 202410Y/2Y Yield Spread & Unemployment Rate Originally shared back in July 2023 (see below charts) Its interesting to see that the yield curve is rising fast (up towards the 0 level) We are reaching into dangerous recessionary territory. No guarantees, just a significantly increased probability. Continuous jobless claims are reaching pre-recession warning levels in both time and volume. Meaning more and more people are becoming unemployed and remaining unemployed for longer. More info in links below. The average interest rate pause timeframe is closing in fast at June 2024 also(Contained in Charts below also). Its time to pay very close attention. The initial 6 months of this year Stay safe out there PUKA by PukaChartsPublished 13
Still not a good time to short.Reminder, when the yield curve turns positive, that's your warning to get out of stocks. AMEX:SPY , SP:SPX , $^ESby theta_manePublished 1
Past SPX action after the 10y-2y yield inversion unwoundI made a chart to show past SPX action after the 10y-2y yield inversion unwound. Dec 2000: SPX was already in bear market and continued down. May 2007: SPX topped, then made a double top, then collapsed. Aug 2019 (atypical): SPX made a +10% move, then collapsed. by Markellos_LinaiosPublished 2
Qualitative Fundamental Analysis of US Economy Oct.2023The most important factor for the economy is the behaviour of GDP. Several economic indicators are tracked to determine the overall economic situation and GDP growth. A technical recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative real GDP. If GDP grows less than 3% on average for the year, the economy is not growing fast enough and this will lead to unemployment. At its core, the Federal Reserve has dual mandate policy: price stability(2% inflation for a year) and maximum employment (max Unemployment rate 4%) . CPI Inflation projection: inflation is forecast at 4.7% in 2023 and is expected to further slow down to 3.0% in 2024. Actual CPI : 3.7 % PCE Inflation projection: inflation to be 3.3 percent in 2023, 2.6 percent in 2024, and 2.2 percent in 2025, and the Federal Reserve expects a similar outlook of 3.3 percent, 2.5 Actual PCE : 3.5% Unemployment rate projection: The unemployment rate reaches 4.1 percent by the end of 2023 and 4.7 percent by the end of 2024 before falling slightly, to 4.5 percent, in 2025. Actual: 3,8% GDP Growth projection: Real GDP increases by 1.5 percent in 2024 and by 2.4 percent in 2025. Actual: 2,4% Interest rates projection:The Fed now expects its benchmark federal funds rate to close out 2024 at an effective rate of 5.1%, which is higher than its June forecast of 4.6% Interest rates: 5.5% MONEY MARKET Yields From the chart above we can see when the recession is coming. The 10Y-2Y has already fallen below 0 and we should prepare for a recession when it comes above 0. The yield curve (all yields) is slightly inverted, but only because of the 20-year yields. The overall curve is normal, which means that investors are not worried about the future, at least for now and they invest more in long-term bonds. According to the FED, we should expect a mild recession at the end of this year. The SP500 seems to be consolidating for the next few months. Corporate Bonds and Credit Spread Spreads are relatively stable. They do not point to a recession. Money Supply M2 The money supply is also stable, which means that the printer is not running. This is a good sign considering the banking crisis. interest rates The last time IR was so high was during the last recession in 2008. History could repeat itself. At the last FOMC meeting, the FED paused rates but said they would remain high. This could be exactly what happened in 2007. FED paused after aggressive hike and recession came. SERVEYS ISM PMI, NMI The historical correlation between real GDP growth and the ISM PMI/NMI is 85%. PMI/NMI are leading indicators and they will predict how GDP will move. It is a short to long term prediction (within 12 months). The reading continued to point to another albeit smaller deterioration in the manufacturing performance, as contractions in output and new orders softened. Meanwhile, sufficient stocks of inputs and finished items, alongside still subdued demand, led firms to reduce their purchasing activity sharply again and firms continued to work through inventories in lieu of expanding their input buying, which contributed to a further improvement in supplier performance. Consumer Sentiment Index(UMCSI) The level of consumer confidence in stability and future prospects can be used to understand the overall trend in the economy. Still, consumers are unsure about the trajectory of the economy given multiple sources of uncertainty, for example over the possible shutdown of the federal government and labor disputes in the auto industry. From a technical perspective the chart looks very suspicious. Like bullback before the new swing. Will see. Building Permits The jump in permits suggested that new construction continues to thrive, driven by a shortage of homes available in the market, despite the dampening effect of rising mortgage rates on housing demand. NFIB Business optimism index Twenty-three percent of small business owners reported that inflation was their single most important business problem, up two points from last month. Also, the number of small business owners expecting better business conditions over the next six months declined (seven points from July to a net negative 37%). “With small business owners’ views about future sales growth and business conditions discouraging, owners want to hire and make money now from strong consumer spending,” said NFIB Chief Economist Bill Dunkelberg. “Inflation and the worker shortage continue to be the biggest obstacles for Main Street. Overall the business is not optimistic for the near future. Leading Economic Index The Leading Economic Index provides an early indication of significant turning points in the business cycle and where the economy is heading in the near term. The US LEI continues to signal a recession. Combined with the yield curves, it looks like a recession could be coming very soon. INFLATION Total Inflation = 30% CPI (demand) + 40% PCE(supply) + 30% other factors) CPI The FED's target may be 2%, but the reality is that inflation is between 2-4%. Inflation has risen again in recent months and current oil prices suggest that it will remain high. Investors are worried about future prices. The same thing happened in the 80s. The FED does not want the same to happen today, which is why they have been so hawkish recently. Core CPI This projection is very scary, but if the economy goes crazy, it can happen, just like in the 80s. I am not predicting that core CPI will rise that much, just pointing out the similarity. PCE Inflation The US personal consumption expenditure price index rose 3.5% year-on-year in August 2023, the most in four months, after an upwardly revised 3.4% rise in July and in line with market expectations. PPI / Core PPI The producer price inflation in the United States accelerated to 1.6% year-on-year in August 2023. This is the second consecutive month. GOVERNMENT Balance sheet The balance sheet is falling, which is deflationary. On the one hand, this is good and gives us an indication that inflation should be contained, but on the other hand, it is a sign of recession. [b ]Cyclical Commodities Trade weighted US Dollar Index Rising trade indices are actually deflationary for the economy. Commodities They stable prices do not give us a clear picture of the near future. Stocks The benchmark indices are falling. The failed to make new HH, suggesting that the will consolidate or fall. Sometimes they are seen as a leading indicator of future GDP and recession. Summery The current pause in interest rates, with the hawkish narrative that rates will stay high for a long time, could be the second phase of the business cycle. The next one is recession. Yield curves have also suggested that the recession is not as far away as we think. The surveys are relatively stable, but the overall picture is not so optimistic. Inflation is on the rise again, which may lead the FED to be more aggressive. They have said many times that they would rather have a recession than a price explosion. They have even warned about a mild recession, how mild we will see. The unemployment rate is still below 4%, but in recent months it has risen from 3.5% to 3.8%. Rising unemployment is a sign of recession. Stock indices have risen in recent months, but future expectations of a new recession, combined with high interest rates and business optimism, are bearish factors for the stock market. by SerpentForexClubUpdated 223
Finally Figured out how to make the 10Y-2Y yeild curve inversionLink: www.tradingview.com your welcome! #WAGMIShortby itsmrpizzatoyouPublished 2
Yield curve prediction for 2024I feel we have 107 days to ride the bull market starting next week, if govt. shutdown is not happening. Lets ride the bull. :)by responsibleFri8380Published 114
Bitcoin Vs Recessions. We need more data. (sept2023)Bitcoin Vs Recessions. We need more recession data, Bitcoin has never existed during an official recession before (time of writing sept 2023) but we can use this chart to see future trends.. lets see how it works out!!!by SonOfWorfPublished 0
2 yr 10 yr spread watch this its going to come in The chart posted is the 10/2 spread that everyone is watching >it bottomed see golden ratio by wavetimerUpdated 115